The first pic is from Geoff Monks. The working is a Shap-Hope Street (Manchester) and the hoppers are carrying stone. Geoff adds "Note the newly applied (?) DRS stickers on the leading wagons; the remainder appear to be ex-Fastline". The pic is dated 16th November 2010.
The second pic was/is a fairly common sight recently. Load Haul liveried class 60, 60059 Swinden Dalesman is shown heading EWS (DBS) grafiti-laden coal hoppers. The shot is by David Wood and the pic was taken on 9th November 2010.